Rick Santorum and Bishop Steinbock: "Secular" Society is to Blame for Rampant Clergy Sexual Abuse

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Posted by Paul KieselMarch 20, 2009 7:24 PM

These two guys, former Republican senator Rick Santorum and Bishop John T. Steinbock, claim that society, in particular secular or liberal society, is to blame for all of the "recent" sex abuse scandals that have rocked the Catholic Church.

Wrong. Their logic is wrong. Their interpretation and understanding of Catholic Church history is completely wrong: These sex abuse scandals are not a "recent" problem, in fact, sexual abuse in and of itself is tied to the origins of the Catholic Church. But before we get to that, let's look at their disgusting comments and mistruths first:

Rick Santorum on "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos (7/31/05)

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let’s move on to another controversy you stirred up, the question of the sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic church. You made a statement in July 2002 which has drawn a lot of fire. You said, in a publication called Catholic On-Line, When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While there’s no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.

You’ve reaffirmed that just a couple of weeks ago. Ted Kennedy, John Kerry say you have to apologize. Mitt Romney, Republican governor, says basically you don’t know what you’re talking about. Do you still stand by that statement?

SANTORUM: Look, the statement I made was that the culture influences people’s behavior. I don’t think anyone…

STEPHANOPOULOS: Isn’t that what conservatives used to say about liberals, when they used to say they were trying to excuse criminals?

SANTORUM: I think what I’m saying is that the culture of liberal sexual freedom and the sexual revolution of the 1960s and ’70s had a profound impact on everybody and their sexual mores. It had a profound impact on the church.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you singled out Boston in…

SANTORUM: I singled out Boston in 2002. In July of 2002, that was the epicenter. We did not know…

(And clearly this guy still doesn't know what's going on within his church and what's been going on within his church for centuries, but more on that in a second.)

Bishop John T. Steinbock addressing sexual abuse within the Fresno Diocese to Central California Catholic Life, in a 2004 letter

[. . .] Society itself simply did not understand the grave harm to children caused by sexual abuse nor know how to respond to child abuse. In fact it was rarely spoken about publicly, and this is true not only in the church but in all of society. Since the mid 1980’s, some bishops may have failed to respond in a way we now know is appropriate, usually out of ignorance of the grave harm caused by child abuse, but most bishops took immediate action when news of an abused child came to their attention [. . .]

[. . .] The way society has understood child abuse and responded to child abuse has evolved over the years. Only in the early 1980’s did society as a whole begin to become aware of the scope of the problem, and begin to speak publicly of it. The bishops began to take action in the mid 1980’s, as they also grew in this societal awareness of the problem. Most bishops did their best to protect children. If a priest was known to have a problem with minors, he would be sent to a program for therapy, directed by a psychiatrist or a psychologist, and only put back into ministry when there was a professional opinion by a psychiatrist or psychologist that there was little risk by that individual of being a danger to children. Often that priest would be put into a ministry where he would not be in direct contact with children.

Are These Guys Serious?

1. They've assumed all people who hold "liberal" values are not religious. I don't need to start naming names, but anybody reading this could list off a dozen names of friends who are politically or socially liberal and who are also theistic.

2. I would dare either one of them to write one of the many definitions of the word "liberal" or "secular" in the comment section of this blog, without referencing a dictionary, and see if either men come close to the correct definition(s) of the two words.

3. Santorum is apparently an intellectual lightweight and it shows in his interview with Mr. Stephanopoulos and Steinbock is lying: Swearingen, a man who was found guilty of molesting a young boy (9-3) by a jury of his peers, is currently in direct contact with children.

Below is an example of how dead wrong both Santorum and Steinbock are in their belief that society is to blame for the "recent" rampant sexual abuse of minors by Catholic Clergymen:

One Richalmus, abbot of Schonthal, around 1270 penned an entire treatise on demons [the church would use demons during the Middle Ages as a reason or source for the growing frequency of sexual transgressions committed against women and children], rich in first-hand experience: He sees (but only when his eyes are shut) countless malevolent demons, like motes of dust, buzzing around his head -- and everyone else's. Despite successive waves of rationalist, Persian, Jewish, Christian, and Moslem (sic) world views, despite revolutionary social, political, and philosophical ferment, the existence, much of the character, and even the name of demons remained unchanged from Hesiod through the Crusades.

Demons, the "powers of the air," come down from the skies and have unlawful sexual congress with women. Augustine believed that witches were the offspring of these forbidden unions. In the Middle Ages, as in classical antiquity, nearly everyone believed such stories. The demons were also called devils, or fallen angels. The demonic seducers of women were labeled incubi; of men, succubi. There are cases in which nuns reported, in some befuddlement, a striking resemblance between the incubus and the priest- confessor, or the bishop, and awoke the next morning, as one fifteenth-century chronicler put it, to "find themselves polluted just as if they had commingled with a man." There are similar accounts, but in harems not convents, in ancient China. So many women reported incubi, argued the Presbyterian religious writer Richard Baxter (in his Certainty of the World of Spirits, in 1691), "that 'tis impudence to deny it."

Carl Sagan, "The Demon-Haunted World" (1997)

The evidence (most of which is too voluminous to relate and would bore you even further if I listed it all within this blog) shows that it's not society's fault for the Catholic Church's inability to protect children and women, but the Church's fault.

However, I'm certain that Santorum and Steinbock would have the impudence to deny any and all of the evidence that contradicts their ignorant beliefs.

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hrh
Posted by hrh
March 21, 2009 12:20 AM

Damn right! They'd NEVER let facts get in the way of their agenda. After all, as Stephen Colbert says, facts do have a liberal bias.

Albino Luciani
Posted by Albino Luciani
March 21, 2009 12:31 AM

OH, NOW I GET IT! Everyone and anyone is to BLAME, except the real source of the felonious chain of problems = THE CURIA!

Well, since this is the Lenten Season, coming up to THE PASSION OF CHRIST, let's throw one more FACT into the game, Pontus Pilate's question is
intentionally misquoted through litiruical (pedo)revisionism of the New Testament.

The correct translation from the Roman Latin of Pilate is NOT "What Is Truth?" The CORRECT TRANSLATION IS = "Who's Truth?"

It explains the "La Cosa Nostra" Curia, & their motto of 'ISAIAH 28:15', very well.

www.bishop-accountability.or/abusetracker for daily verified & vetted TRUTH, which can only lead to you to one conclusion = "STOP DONATING LAITY!" as St. Peter Damien correctly asserted.

FIAT LUX!

Albino Luciani,
MURDERED POPE

Victoria
Posted by Victoria
March 21, 2009 12:32 AM

What utter nonsense! If we catholic kids had only been a little more, "Street Wise", like our public school counterparts, we might have been able to fight off our clergy attackers and thus save ourselves from being sexually victimized. Instead we were secluded in our enclosed world of prayers and candles and incense; and snapping to attention whenever a nun or priest came within 50 Feet of us. And whenever a nun or priist told us to "JUMP", we didn't even ask, "HOW HIGH"? We just did it. We never had the influences of those outside our enclosed world of parish life. Every day and night of the week was taken up with one church event after another: Choir Practice; Tuesday Night Novena; Cyo: CCD; And on Friday Nights (EVERY Friday Night) was the Knights of Columbus Fish Fry; and of course, Sunday Mass. Catholic Children seldom sought company or friends outside their own little circle. So if anyone tries to blame the rape and sodomy of the children of the church on free wheeling society, they are most certainly in the "Wrong Pew". May I suggest that those investigating what happened to these men that caused them to turn into perverted child molesters, the place to start would be the seminaries where they were trained; and, perhaps even before that, when they were altar boys, etc. In the history of this world there have never been so many sexual predators and child molesters connected with one organization or religious entity. And since for centuries there has been a history of catholic clergy acting out their sexual desires by the use of innocent children it is obvious today's permissive society could not be to blame. So Senator Rick and Bishop Johnny had better get back to the drawing board and think this one out all over again.

mike ference
Posted by mike ference
March 21, 2009 2:10 AM

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Thomas Michael Barnes
Posted by Thomas Michael Barnes
March 21, 2009 2:13 AM

Well, as a victim of physical abuse and sexual harraasment at the hands of nuns as a child and teenager, I can tell you that the Catholic Church has a special twist on child abuse that goes back to the beginning most likely. AND it occurs in Catholic families as a result of this institutional blindness. It is beyond belief.

Joseph Stalin
Posted by Joseph Stalin
March 21, 2009 5:11 PM

As I have said before, 'one murder is indeed a tragedy, a thousand a statistic'...

I must compliment the Roman Curia, while blogging here in Hell, that they indeed defeated my evil Soviet Empire, with no armed divsions, only to win the 'battle', and now lose the war.

These across the Tiber pedophile perpetrators, deviants, enablers, aid & abettors, racketeers, perjurers, endangerers, embezzlers, etc., make me, a simple mass murdered, look good by comparison.

Laity, consider SHOT WHILE ESCAPING for these demons you call cardinals and bishops...clean, efficient, economical, and justice is served.

OK, in your era, of 'rule by law', I know, I know, this is just not 'kosher', but at least stop donating monies to them, lest you be one of them?

XOXO,

Joseph Stalin

CC: Lucifer, Prince Of Darkness

PS: Ken Lay Is Waiting For Bernie Madoff, Bernie Law, & Roger Mahony to join our Saturday Night Poker (RED HOT) game down here!

bkc
Posted by bkc
March 22, 2009 10:24 PM

The Bishop never blamed librals or said they are not religious in your quote above. In fact what he said about the learning curve since the 80's is true. I think most bishops, with the noted exceptions like Bernard Law, progressed in their reaction to abuse and many were ahead of some sections of society by 1994.The public school establishment is still protected from lawsuits.

Diogenes
Posted by Diogenes
March 22, 2009 10:48 PM

Does "bkc" stand for "Bishop Kissing Catholic"?

All one has to do, is read just a few days of daily vetted & verified reporting at www.bishop-accountability.org/abustracker to know bkc's comments are FALSE, LIES, & CLUELESS, at best.

The EVIDENCE and FACTS are that of 335 members of the USCCB, at least 250 are known and proven pedophile enablers, perpetrators, aid & abettors, and would be behind bars for life, if not miters or red hats..

The USCCB is an obstruction of justice, tax evading, grand theft, perjuring, raketeering, endangering of minors cabal, of the most demonic factual evidence, over mutiple decades.

Guilty include, but are not limited to: Mahony, Egan, Dolan, George, O'Malley, Leveda, Quinn, Brown, Brom, Steinbock, Hughes, Foley, Keeler, Sambi, Maida, Cummins, Walsh, Curry, Soto, Peolotte, Lynch, Hubbard, McCormack, Law, Barnes, Weigand, McGrath, Ryan, Burke, McCarrick, Rivera, Gregory, Blaire, Chaput, Rigali, DiNardo, and many more.

Anyone donating any monies to these sexual assaulting enablers, posing as clerics, for any reason, is indeed endorsing this continued criminal behavior.

bkc's feable attempt to delfect the massive multiple criminality of the Cardinals and Bishops off on public schools, FAILS to explain the constant, pervasive, and overt, transferring of felonious perpetrators, repeatedly, to assualt again in one organization, over many decades.

To date, over 100,000 (documented) children were raped, mentally torture, physically maimed, orally copulated, sodomized, murdered, kidnapped by clerics of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as hard ball litigated and extorted, and these curia continue to pedo enable, costing laity to date, mutiple Billions of Dollars, and counting, with no end, or real corrrection, in site.

THE USCCB needs to be prosecuted Federally by the RICO Statutes.

"bkc" read up and/or withdraw your LIES!

Diogenes

KayEbeling
Posted by KayEbeling
March 23, 2009 12:53 PM

How do they explain then Father Thomas Horne raping my sister and me age 4 to 9 outside Chicago from 1949 to 1953?

Sarah
Posted by Sarah
March 31, 2009 7:36 AM

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Sarah

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jdp
Posted by jdp
April 03, 2009 3:33 PM

"When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected".

This simply does say it all, and the problem is as old as society. All we need do is simply a little research, and stop letting the television and the internet educate us. Let's educate ourselves, objectively. The truth will set us free.

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