Cardinal(s) Wrong

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Posted by Paul KieselApril 08, 2009 6:30 PM

Cardinal George is wrong on his stance of Obama addressing this year's graduating class at Notre Dame University.

Ten priests in the Roman Catholic order that helps run the University of Notre Dame want the school to reconsider having President Barack Obama deliver this year's commencement address. They're wrong, too.

Why? Because it's not their graduation. It's the students' graduation. And what do the seniors who will be graduating from Notre Dame think: They appear to strongly back the university's invitation to Obama. The campus newspaper reports that 97 percent of the letters that have come in on the subject from graduating seniors are supportive.

So why does the American Life League, a Catholic pro-life organization, want to remove Notre Dame from future Catholic foundation funding? Because they don't think the students at the school are Catholic enough and, frankly, they likely disapprove of many of President Obama's policies.

This "political" and theological stunt by poorly advised cardinals and priests comes down to the disapproval of one's, in this case Obama's, political ideologies and they're turning a joyous occasion for many hard-working seniors into a publicity stunt, unfairly stealing the attention that should be focused squarely on the graduating class and the President's upcoming appearance.

However, this isn't the first time the Catholic church has had its priorities out of whack. Look at what took place in Fresno last week, as Bishop John T. Steinbock felt vindicated by a Fresno's jury verdict: Jurors unanimously agreed that Monsignor Anthony Herdegen molested two brothers from 1959 to 1972 while Herdegen was a priest at St. John's Catholic Church in Wasco. The jurors didn't find the church liable.

In a statement, Bishop Steinbock expressed regret that Herdegen had abused the Santillans, "even though the diocese learned that they were abused years after it occurred [FLAT OUT LIE]."

"Bishop Steinbock emphasized that if even one child is sexually abused, that is one child too many," the statement said. "Child sexual abuse afflicts all of society, and no community or institution is free from its effects -- even the church [SECOND FLAT OUT LIE]."

Steinbock's position on sexually abused children is sadly disingenuous: A little over two years ago, a Fresno jury found Father Eric Swearingen guilty (9-3) of molesting a former altar boy, however, Bishop John J. Steinbock has continued to allow this man to work with children at the Holy Spirit Parish in Fresno, California.

If this is the best the Catholic church has, when it comes to its leaders and rank and file members throughout the country, I'm unimpressed.

However, kudos to Rev. John Jenkins, Notre Dame's president, who said in a statement last month that the invitation does not mean the university supports all of Obama's positions but that he will be honored as an "inspiring leader."

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San Diego/Orange County
Posted by San Diego/Orange County
April 08, 2009 10:42 PM

You have proof Bishop Steinbock lied! What are you going to do about it Paul.

Glorybe1929
Posted by Glorybe1929
April 08, 2009 10:51 PM

I am becomming a dejected older woman that raised her family Catholic. I became a Roman Catholic convert when I was 12. My husband and I have left the R C Church but not the Faith in our Lord.
I have been blogging for at least 4 years as an activist in getting out the message of what the Catholic Church has been doing to our vunerable children. This [anathema] has been going on since the middle of the 1st. century.

I'll tell you this, it isn't really helping to try and get the message out when I see an intelligent? man like Newt Ginrich convert to Catholcism. I thought so much of him that I really wanted him to become president. No longer do I feel that way. Very few people care a hoot, that the Roman Catholic Priests are grooming, then sexually abusing our children and then being moved by their superiors all over to escape their punishment. As long as it doesn't touch the individual personally, they ignore it.
I feel like who gives a damn, when the clergy fight the abused tooth and nail and then the leaders of the conservative movement ignore every thing about this church that should be rejected.[Just think about yourself Newt, don't do any research] The Crimes Against Humanity committed by these evil persons doesn't mean squat to the brainwashed...they just continue on their merry way. I'm getting too old to keep writing the truth. It sets me free but I'm just going to say, "God , I did all I could and I'm going to let go &let you do it. I sure didn't make a dent.

Georgia
Posted by Georgia
April 08, 2009 11:39 PM

GloryBE 1929, Bless Your Heart. I didn't truly find GOD until I left the Catholic Church behind. I found HIM because I was no longer harrassed by the constant guilt trips and being told how, "Unworthy" I was. I've found I was, am and always will be worthy because of my new found unburdened Belief and Faith in GOD.
As for the cardinals and bishops of the Catholic Church, they are the ones who are bringing about the demise of this diseased, corrupt faith based corporation still trying to pass as a religion. I honestly believe these men, along with the present and past popes thought they could keep the lid on their sacriligous and perverted scandals; however, they could not have forseen the World Wide Net. And why are these bishops and their NAZI Pope still fighting to keep the secrets of what goes on behind the marble walls of Vatican City? EGO. These men don't want to go down in history as being in charge when the Roman Catholic Church destroyed itself through sexual perversion, child rape, perjury, embezzlement, hedonism, and murder.

Glorybe!929
Posted by Glorybe!929
April 08, 2009 11:50 PM

Georgia....that was so nice of you to say. It makes me feel so much better to know there is someone who will take over for me when I just can't seem to do this anymore. You have said all the right things. God Bless you and Happy Easter...He Has Risen! "g"

Albino Luciani
Posted by Albino Luciani
April 09, 2009 12:25 AM

My answer to the two previous posters, on this blog, is quite simple: "STOP DONATING LAITY" as St. Peter Damien correctly asserted (it lead to Martin Luther and the Protestanrt Reformation).

This simple act HAS ALREADY removed $3.3 BILLION Tax Free Dollars from the annual USCCB (Unremoved Sexual Criminal Cabal Bishops) taken from the laity's offetory plates, of approximately $8.8 gross billion collected annually in the USA, inless than 3 years, and the criminal cardinals and bishops ARE feeling the heat, here, and globally.

33 months is a very short time, considering the decades of deceit, deflection, obstruction of justice, perjury, wholesale child endangerment (with premediated malice of forethought); child deliquency, child rape, child sodomy, child oral copulation, child physical maiming, child mental torture, child hard ball litigating, child character murders, racketeering, aid & abetting, enabling, etc.

Pew attendence has fallen from 22%, to 12%, of 68 million American Roman Catholics, in the last 33 months.

THE LAITY GET IT, & ARE GETTING IT, BECAUSE OF TRUTHFUL BLOGS LIKE THIS ONE, or daily verified & vetted reporting at:

www.bishop-accountability.org/abusetracker have gotten the REAL TRUTH OUT.

Until proven EVIL and DEMONIC men like Mahony, Law, O'Malley, Hubbard, McCarrick, Hughes, Keeler, Foley, Maida, George, Rigali, Di Nardo, Gregory, Chaput, Re, Bertone, Scola, Sodano, Hummes, Rivera, Pell, Brown, Brom, Walsh, Cummins, Soto, Weigand, Blaire, Steinbock, Sambi, Barnes, Curry, Ryan, Quinn, McGrath, Corileone, Egan, Dolan, Schonborn, Flores, McCormack, Leveda, Burke, etc., are each removed from office, and harshly punished (Gulag like life house arrest), no improvements will result.

It's the pedo curia that caused this, and is continuing to cause it.

It is the pedo curia who are a 'clear & present danger' to all laity and children.

Let the Roman "La Cosa Nostra" Global Pedo Cult TWIST IN THE WIND, by lack of cash, and any laity.

Emile Zola was pretty much dead on the mark, no peace or tranquilty will come until "the last brick of the last church has fallen on the last (pedo) priest."

St. Paul to the Ephesisans, 5:11, reminds each of us: "Do not deal in fruitless deeds of darkness, but expose them!"

The Pedo Curia's Motto Remains = Isaiah 28:15!

Edmund Burke's words ring true: "The only condition for the triumph of evil is for good men (or women) to do nothing."

There are over 100+ recently published books at More ... on the FACTS of this criminal organization, posing as a religion, from such salient & cogent authors as, Roman Catholic Bishops Jeffery Robinson of Australia, Thomas Gumbleton of the USA and in the summer of 2008 in the UK's THE TABLET, even Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini of Milano, Italy.

Other truthful authors include: Dr. Robert Grant, MD; Fr. Richard Sipe; Attorney & Legal Scholar Marci Hamilton; Phillip Lawler; David Yallop; Jason Berry; Dr. Leon Podles, Fr. Thomas Reese, SJ; Fr./Dr. Howard Bleichner, SS; and Fr./Dr./Canon Lawyer Thomas Doyle, OP, to name but a few. Many of these titles are FREE in your local public libraries also.

On DVD watch the 2006 US Academy Award BEST DOCUMENTARY nominated 'DELIVER US FROM EVIL', or the 2007 Cannes Film Festival Winner 'VOWS OF SILENCE' or the 2008 Factual Historical Film 'GOYA'S GHOSTS'.

Soon, yet another public report will be released in Ireland, on the horrors of that ongoing country's Roman Catholic Curia sanctioned pedo cults, as has already be documented in detail (though heavily lowered sand-bagged assault numbers than reality) in the JJ Criminal Justice Report, as well as the Philadephia Criminal Grand Jury Report, at www.bishop-accountability.org.

No GUILTY Curia Removal? No Laity Monies! It Remains THAT Simple (Since the Criminal, Civil, Canonical Courts Are Gamed, & Statutes For Protection Lobbied Against By the USCCB & Laity Paid For Insurance Carriers, With Laity Monies).

FIAT LUX & VERITAS! Buona Pasqua! But May The Pedo Curia NOT Rise From The Dead!

Albino Luciani,
MURDERED POPE

Georgia
Posted by Georgia
April 09, 2009 12:38 AM

GloryBe929, Thank you for your Good Wishes and Easter Blessing. However, I might be as old, or older than you. In any case, GOD Loves Us, and that's all we need to know. When I was a little girl I was constantly told by the church what a sinner I was and how unworthy I was of GOD's Love. Now as a senior citizen, I find it was all a LIE! I'M NOT A SINNER!!!! I AM WORTHY!!!! Otherwise, what was the use of all the bloody suffering, pain and death of Jesus? HE didn't die for nothing. HE died to make us all worthy. The Catholic Church thrives on Fear and Superstition. Keeping the Faithful afraid and thus, keeping the money rolling in. Anyway, Happy Easter To You Too, Honey. GOD Bless You.

Casual Reader
Posted by Casual Reader
April 09, 2009 12:45 AM

Why has there not been any RICO prosecutions to thwart the gaming of statutes of limitations?

Are the Feds being black-mailed to look the other way, or this just does not rank up there with the Bernie Madoff's of the world?

From what I have read and hear, the Roman Curia is there with, or beyond, the terrorist mullahs of Islam, or child abusing orthodox Rabbis of Judism.

The God Of Abraham must be shaking His head in total disbelief, how totally corrupt and criminal his so-called representatives here are.

Groucho Marx
Posted by Groucho Marx
April 09, 2009 12:50 AM

When reading about the bishops and cardinals, I'm reminded of my own line:

"Who are you going to believe? Me, or your own eyes?!"

Fresno Court Reporter
Posted by Fresno Court Reporter
April 09, 2009 1:39 AM

Roger Mahony lied repeatedly on the stand that "he did not recall" in this Fresono case.

Roger Mahony is a pathological liar and real criminal.

If Mahony said anything with conviction, I'd want 20 independent confirmations of it.

Mahony's body count of assaulted children on his watches in Fresno, Stockton, and LA, is even larger than Bernard Laws' in Boston.

Mahony is less trustworthy than Osama bin Laden; at least you can believe bin Laden will do what he says.

If Mahony's lips are moving, he is LYING.

There is no safe child in the any vicinity where Roger Mahony remains an enabler, aid & abettor, perpetrator, obstructor of justice, defrauder, and unpunished serial child assault arch pedophile racketeer he remains.

Norma
Posted by Norma
April 09, 2009 7:24 AM

Just because Notre Dame University has invited President Obama to address the graduating class, this does not mean the school approves of his policies. Like any other ceremony, one may hear the speech, consider the words and follow the advice, or ignore it. "Priorities out of whack?" Cardinal George, don't worry about Obama's message to graduating seniors, but keep your house in order and clean up issues concerning clergy sexual abuse.

Glorybe1929
Posted by Glorybe1929
April 09, 2009 1:35 PM

I want you[Mr. Ference] and all who read THESE COMMENTS, that the people who Do Nothing, Say Nothing and completely IGNORE the SEXUAL ABUSE of our children by Roman Catholic PRIESTS, be they parishioners, policemen, judges or anyone who knows and does nothing will be judged more harshly because these are sins Against Humanity. PLUS.....for the actual "doers of this crime" they have sinned against the Holy Spirit, which is an UNFORGIVABLE SIN. Thank God you have the intestinal fortitude to keep going after all these years. You give me HOPE to keep going when I thought "NO ONE CARES"

Mary
Posted by Mary
April 09, 2009 2:30 PM

I'm happy that Glory Be and Georgia found each other because misery wants company. I'm glad they expressed themselves, because I will add them to my prayer list, especially Glory Be who also took her husband away from his faith too.

Norma, why would the school honor somebody with with an Honorary Degree if it doesn't necessarily approve of the person's policies? Your logic is flawed.

SarahTX2
Posted by SarahTX2
April 09, 2009 3:43 PM

GloryBe, you did make a dent, a big dent. And Georgia too. I'm gratified to know that there are some life-long Catholics who opened their eyes to see the deviance and damage that is inflicted on some people by the Catholic Church. And most especially, for senior citizen Catholics to take the kind of stand you both are taking is laudable and admirable. I hope you feel blessed every day with the knowledge that you think for yourselves and can't be brainwashed into ignoring or overlooking the abuse of children in every diocese in America. Bravo, ladies!

Glorybe1929
Posted by Glorybe1929
April 10, 2009 1:13 AM

Thank you SarahTX2....What you wrote means a lot to me, as I'm in my 80th year. Since 2001 I've been an activist on this subject. & a blogger for about 4 yrs. Georgia, you are great! Keep up the good work for our Lord.

Mary.. FYI....my husband of almost 58 yrs has a mind of his own and he was a cradle Catholic and couldn't stand, sit or kneel in a RCC anymore. WE have a story but I won't bore you with it.

No one in our family has been sexually abused by a RCC priest or anyone else.We also are very happy that the millstone is around the RCC's necks and not ours.WE love our Lord and Savior more than you can even imagine and He loves us in every way.

We just knew, when Crimes Against Humanity happened in our church [by 5 priests we knew and cared for] and then all the rest hit the fan in 2002, [that and a lot more,] made us leave the "get- a- way car" we could have been driving. We did not wish to be assessories to these Sexual Crimes[by supposed men of God] Against Innocent Children by staying and supporting these child groomers and sexual deviate abusers.

Did you know, one priest in his life as a priest, can abuse more than 100 children? Add that one up.

Children can not stand up to a Holy Priest who says,"he represents Christ here on earth. Why aren't you outraged?? What if it were your child?? "Whatever you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto Me"!

HarryTurner
Posted by HarryTurner
April 10, 2009 3:42 AM

How can Catholics ever claim to be moral or Christ-like when they have acritically protected and funded a hierarchy that amorally protected its pedophile clergy and denied their existance for decades?

If they actually believe in Hell and Purgatory, I hope they are ready for the flames that await them there.

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